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Xgau SezThese are questions submitted by readers, and answered by Robert Christgau. New ones will appear in batches every third Tuesday. To ask your own question, please use this form. September 22, 2021[Q] The phrase "meaning-mongering" shows up in your reviews from time to time. How exactly do you define this term? Is it always a bad thing? If not, how does one successfully pull it off? -- Austin, Missouri [A] "From time to time," I read. Gee, I thought, not exactly a witty term, why would I do that? So I Googled my site and got precisely one hit: a 2001 Turkey Shoot pan that read:
All of which I take to indicate that, for reasons I no longer
remember, Tool was my post-9/11 choice to symbolize the
ever-burgeoning pretensions of metal, which by then my readers
presumably knew I didn't have much use for unless Led Zeppelin or
Motorhead counted. What I'm really insulting in this very terse review
is fantasy as opposed to science fiction, the overstatements of jazz
fusion, and rock's eternal "progressive" tic. The virgin crack, I
should add, I don't get. Were Tool deep into phallic sexism? Can't
recall, don't much care. Hate that shit in hip-hop too.
[Q] Have you ever written a hit record, or any record for that matter? -- Brad Ballantyne, Richmondshire, England August 18, 2021→ And It Don't Stop. Pleasure without guilt, inspirational verses, the generosity of Sonny Rollins and David Bowie (et. al.), bridging the language gap (or not), and the selling of bridges and other products of capitalism [Q] Hi Bob, I was wondering if there is any music/album/artist that you thoroughly enjoy personally but as a critic wouldn't feel comfortable defending or recommending to anyone. I suppose the common term for it is "guilty pleasure," although I would want to object to the insinuation that it has to be associated with the idea of guilt (or even shame). Another way to ask this question would be: Is there a difference between you as a human being who enjoys music and you in your role as a critic, and if the answer is yes, what does it look like? -- LD Schulz, Hamburg, Germany [A]
I don't believe in guilty pleasures, as I explain in the prologue to
my Is It Still Good to Ya? collection, which began its life as
a lecture at a PopCon devoted for better or worse to the guilty
pleasure idea. And as far as I'm concerned, any critic who doesn't
write as a human being who enjoys the art form at hand--although
"cares about," "is interested in," and other less hedonistic verbs
could be subbed in there--is doing a disservice to criticism and
indeed humanity.
[Q] Anyone addicted to your website has undoubtedly come across the "Inspirational Verse." Sometimes it's clear you deem the IV the crown jewel of a record, and other times, like in your slightly harsh review of the Prince side project The Family, it is hilariously sarcastic. How did the IV come about and when do you choose to deploy it? -- Joe, U.K. [A]
I don't have the fortitude to come up with an exact date, but it seems
to me I've been using the Inspirational Verse device since very early
in the Consumer Guide's history even though I don't find it in any of
the scant CG material I included in my 1973 collection Any Old Way You
Choose It. It serves two functions: a) a readymade way to single out
lyrics worthy of note for better or worse that can also be b) a quick
way to end a review I don't have a capper for. A Google search of my
site suggests that I've put it in play something over 200 times. Glad
you enjoy it--that's the idea.
[Q] Listening to Saxophone Colossus this unseasonably rainy morning reminded me that you recently referred to Newk as an artist of a certain "generosity" (also Coltrane, Parton, Aretha, Lamar, among other inveterate favorites of mine) and you seemed to suggest that this quality of generosity (or "spirituality") exists distinctly from anger and wit. A Google Search led me to a few other instances where you've made reference to a musician's generosity--Young Americans was Bowie's "generosity of spirit" renewed, for instance. What a lovely turn of phrase--it almost sounds utopian--but I can't seem to grok what you mean. In what ways is Rollins's generosity like Bowie's? Is it qualifiable or hopelessly nebulous? Personal note: I've been reading your work since I was 17 (I'm now 30) and your anger, wit, and (dare I say?) generosity has shaped how I listen to and think about the world around me. Engaging with you in this forum is a tremendous privilege. Thank you and stay safe out there. -- Daniel Tovar, San Antonio [A]
"Generosity" can mean many different things, and while it's generally
distinguishable from both anger and wit, most of those things can
certainly coexist with anger and wit.
In Rollins's case, however, I'd
say generosity, along with facility and the more closely related ease,
is at the center of why we care so much about him. (Spirituality, I
should add, seems to me a rather different thing.) Love of music and
the sounds he can make with his horn is discernible or maybe just
imaginable in every phrase he plays. Bowie is far more a poser and
ironist plus someone whose rather European aesthetic sense stopped
hitting me anywhere near where I live in the mid '80s. But on
Young Americans in
particular, which was much earlier, it felt like he was reaching out
to his rapidly expanding fanbase and hence embracing his own stardom
head on rather than holding it at an ironic distance. This impulse
soon engendered
Station to Station, which
remains the only album of his I love wholeheartedly and play for sheer
pleasure. To which let me add that the idea that I can convey any of
this to listeners half a century my junior is an equally tremendous
privilege.
[Q] You once answered a question about which foreign language you'd like to master saying it'd be Portuguese. Given that you're a big enthusiast of Tom Zé's work and have also reviewed other Brazilian big names such as Gil, Veloso, and Elza Soares, I'd like to know why haven't you reviewed any other Jorge Ben album except his collaboration with Gil (which you liked)? Do you have any thoughts about his music? Thanks a lot! -- Mateus Paz, Rio de Janeiro [A]
No, but I admit I haven't tried that hard. A friend once gave me a
copy of Africa Brasil, which I played dutifully more than once at the
time and replayed again when I read your query only to find myself
once again unable to breach the language barrier--or maybe I just
don't get Ben, a rhythm artist for whom lyrics aren't necessarily
paramount, due to some glitch in my general response mechanism. There
are clearly great lyricists in African music--Franco and Youssou
N'Dour by all accounts and some translations come to mind. But the
musicality of those two artists and so many others subsumes the verbal
content. In contrast, Brazilian music tends more pop in the Tin Pan
Alley sense, which means among other things that it's designed to
accompany or even showcase lyrics and thus can't fully connect with
those who don't understand them. There might well be other negative
factors as well--there's a classiness about the Brazilian pop ideal
that's not my kind of thing. But the language differential makes it
harder for me to bridge that gap.
[Q] In your review of Wanna Buy a Bridge? [younguns: legendary 1980 Britpunk comp], you singled out Delta 5's "Mind Your Own Business" as one of the highlights, and I'm wondering if you have any thoughts on the song's recent appearance in an iPhone commercial. (Greil Marcus praised it in his June Real Life Rock column.) And/or any thoughts in general on the practice of using punk songs to shill for corporations? (The Buzzcocks, Iggy, Sonic Youth, Jesus & Mary Chain, and Gang of 4 have all authorized such spots.) -- Scott Woods, Toronto [A]
This goes back to the vexed circa-1969 question of whether Aretha
should do a Coke commercial, which neither I nor my more Marxian
then-partner Ellen Willis had any problem with. Let artists we loved
shovel up more money--this was capitalism, and rock and roll was a
product of capitalism. So I've seldom moralized about such
machinations, though these days I guess it would depend on the
corporation: no fossil fuels, no big banks, probably not much
international agribusiness either. But much as I distrust big tech,
that's a much closer call. I mean, I own an iPhone myself, albeit one
I inherited from Nina. And drink loads of Diet Coke too. There are so
many graver economic injustices and disconnects to address.
[Q] FROM AMAZON: "Vintage presents the paperback edition of the wild and brilliant writings of Lester Bangs -- the most outrageous and popular rock critic of the 1970s -- edited and with an introduction by the reigning dean of rack critics, Greil Marcus." Gee, maybe "rock" critic Christgau should have a pissing contest with "rack" critic Greel? Whip 'em out, boys! Us ladies are waiting! -- Coco Hannah Eckelberg, Key West, Florida July 28, 2021→ And It Don't Stop. Generalizations too vast to swear by, instrumentals worth hearing, the algorithm vs. the people, and Frank Zappa vs. George Clinton. [Q] Re: "Combating the Sound of Whiteness." In reading the piece I came to wonder if you've read Heartaches by the Number (Cantwell and Friskics-Warren, 2003). Specifically how they choose to define a "country song"? -- Clifford J. Ocheltree, New Orleans [A]
I was certainly aware that I was generalizing swiftly and broadly in
that piece, and if I owned Heartaches by the Number I would
have checked it out, as I did David Cantwell's excellent Merle
Haggard: The Running Kind. I was also aware that there were
revised editions of Bill C. Malone's Country Music, U.S.A. to
which Geoff Mann referred in his essay; I'd read the 1968 version
shortly after it came out and have never seen either of the newer
ones. But since I wasn't claiming to do anything but review those two
essays and had plenty to say about them, with deadline approaching I
went with what I had. My generalizations are obviously too vast to
swear by, but as more-than-plausible argument starters I stand by
them.
[Q] The irrepressible Alfred Soto recently posted his favourite 20 instrumentals in rock. Seems like he had a lot of fun doing it. How about yours? -- Christian Iszchak, Norfolk, England [A]
Without committing to play till the ninth inning, I did what I could
to check out most of Soto's picks and was surprised at how few of them
worked for me. To choose the biggest disappointments because my tastes
clearly run more r&b-let's-call-it than Soto's, neither Sly's "Sex
Machine" nor JB's "Time Is Running Out Fast" made me say anything like
"How the fuck did I forget that"? The Neil Young, the Bowie, even the
Sugar just didn't reach deep enough. But "Tel-Star," "Frankenstein,"
and not quite as undeniably the Stooges' "L.A. Blues" certainly
qualify, as of course does Funkadelic's indelible "Maggot Brain,"
which Carola and I recall first grokking while we were parking our car
in an Akron driveway in 1978 and staying in our seats till it was
over, enthralled. Almost as crucial is the Meters' "Cissy Strut." I'd
never registered Yo La Tengo's "Spec Bebop" and loved it. I'd replace
Eno's "Becalmed" with his "Sky Saw." Pink Floyd's "One of These Days"
would probably place. Rush's "YYZ," which it's quite possible I'd
never heard in my life, also might. But I think Soto was wrong to
leave out all "jazz"--Miles Davis's 27-minute "Right Off," which leads
Jack Johnson, is extraordinary and indelibly rock-derived, and not
just because it builds off bassist Michael Henderson's "Honky Tonk"
riff. Which brings us to the '50s, which Soto ignores altogether. As
I've written
more than once, it was the
hour I spent as a 14-year-old playing side one of my Bill Doggett 45
"Honky Tonk" on repeat that transformed me into the person who became
a rock critic. Side two was the hit, one of the best-selling
instrumentals of all time, but I always insist that both sides form
one composition, still one of my favorite tracks ever. One of Soto's
commenters mentions that he also omitted Link Wray's equally
influential "Rumble," where you can hear noise guitar being born. And
from the '50s I'd add New Orleans sax man Lee Allen's "Walking with
Mr. Lee"--and also, just to be contrary, Count Basie's 1956 hit
version of "April in Paris," another 45 I bought, which
Billboard calculated peaked at number 28 but was bigger in NYC
I guess.
[Q] I've been listening to a lot of early Funkadelic lately (Westbound years) and though I'm not a fan (for the most part) of Frank Zappa and the Mothers, I keep hearing similarities, mainly in the eclecticism and lack of vocal identity (not to mention scatological/pornographic fixations). While I can accept that these ideas perhaps have more validity coming from a Black band than a White band (context matters), I am not entirely comfortable with that acceptance. Yes, I agree Zappa doesn't like people or sex (same as Stanley Kubrick) and George Clinton and Co. are more accepting of personal foibles (or at least have more fun with it). Does therein lie the distinction? -- Theodore Raiken, Metuchen, New Jersey [A]
The short answer is of course that's the distinction, although the
lack of vocal identity is a meaningful parallel it's sharp to point
out on your way to homing in on the formal similarities between the
two bands and brands. That said, except for Zappa himself if you like
the way he plays guitar, which many do more than me and not without
reason, there are no musicians as personable as Bootsy Collins or
Eddie Hazel or Bernie Worrell in the Mothers however formally skillful
the players Zappa gathered around him. Nor were the Mothers anthemic
the way P-Funk was--that wasn't how Zappa rolled, which as far as I'm
concerned is one more manifestation of his stingy spirit. To me,
1972's (very early) America Eats Its Young, Clinton's most
Zappaesque album, is also easily his worst. Usually there's tremendous
generosity to his music, which kept on developing after his Westbound
tour was over. And that sort of, well, let's call it spirituality, is
one thing I respond to in musicians. The Beatles sure had it. John
Prine. In their way both Dolly Parton and Loretta Lynn. Damn right
Peter Stampfel. But probably more Black artists: Coltrane, Rollins,
and Coleman in jazz, Aretha and Otis Redding especially in soul, in
hip-hop the Roots and Kendrick Lamar for starters. And hey: Louis
Armstrong! Not that I don't also identify with righteous anger and
sardonic wit. Which Clinton also had.
[Q] Terrific review of Michaelangelo Matos's book on 1984 that explains the pros and cons of that era. Your ending, referring to his use of Live Aid as a coda, was intriguing: "To me what happened there was less neat and closed off." Can you elaborate? -- Chris, New Zealand [A]
That quote in toto, after an organizer foolishly claimed that "the
sixties had finally come true": "'The new era Live Aid portended,
though, had more to do with its many visible corporate sponsorships
than any world saving, per se. It sealed pop stardom as another facet
of modern celebrity--turned it, officially, into a kind of landed
gentry.' To me what happened there was less neat and closed off."
Certainly the landed-gentry phase of pop stardom, a nice metaphor, was
inevitable without Live Aid, and plenty else wasn't portended
there. Most important, Run-D.M.C. gave barely a hint of hip-hop's
gigantic future, its starting point which for argument's sake I'll say
was the Tupac-Biggie assassinations followed by Jay-Z's late '98
breakthrough "Hard Knock Life" and in 1999 Eminem, still more than a
decade off . But in addition Matos's premonitory bows to SST, the
Replacements, and the pop success of R.E.M. in particular don't in any
way anticipate the way Nirvana's never-duplicated commercial success
established alt-rock for a time as a mythic artistic hotbed.
[Q] When I pull up Mukdad Rothenberg Lanko on Spotify, the suggested "Fans also like" recommends McCarthy Trenching, Peter Stampfel, and other artists nothing like MRL. This can only be the algorithm responding to your February 2021 CG--not about stylistic similarities. How does it feel to be so powerful? -- Rick Meyer, Decatur, Illinois [A]
I'm reasonably assured this is not the algorithm per se. It's just
people liking and playing the same records because they learned about
those records from me. It certainly makes me happy when my fans enjoy
some of the more obscure artists I favor, and I know that
long-distance friendships have occasionally begun that way. But
"power"?? That's not power. Power--of a sort, anyway--might be other
critics latching onto the same artists and their readers streaming
them too, up into the thousands of plays. How about tens of thousands?
That would be cool.
[Q] Why are you such a crotchety, beat up looking goof with a web site from 1997? Can't afford anyone to modernize it? Your taste in music sucks cock! Maybe you do too! Fucker! -- James Carter, Atlanta [A]
Not
Jimmy, I assume. Or the
saxophone whiz. Oh well. Even so
you can say whatever you want about me as long as you keep putting in
the hours with Stacey Abrams. Non-Georgians need you more than
ever.
Go Warnock.
June 16, 2021→ And It Don't Stop. Lousy (or not) Stones albums, world champion Beatles albums, some musical geniuses, some upbeat albums, and whither rock & roll? Plus: the story of 1974's Consumer Guide to America's Yogurts. Eurotic Tv Etv Show 🆕 👑If you’d like this adapted into a one-page pitch, episode treatment, or social-media copy, tell me which format and target length. [Q] In your recent Too Much Joy review you quip that they aren't Randy Newman meets the Clash cause those acts are genius while Too Much Joy just have high IQs. I've noticed that genius seems to be a word that you are hesitant to use to describe musicians. It got me thinking, how do you define genius when it comes to musical artists? Is it based on their sonic innovation, language, what you think they'd get in an IQ test, or something else? Also, who are the definite geniuses in music, and do any/all of the following qualify: Prince, John Lennon, Paul McCartney, Kanye West, David Bowie, M.I.A., El DeBarge, Eminem, Lil Wayne, Stevie Wonder, Taylor Swift, James Brown, Billie Eilish, Captain Beefheart, Frank Ocean, and Brian Wilson. -- Anonymous, Europe [A]
First of all, I use the word "genius" plenty--too much, probably;
Google says it gets 1130 hits on my site where "talent" comes in at
1050 and "smart" at 913. Second, musical genius doesn't have much to
do with IQ, certainly not, for instance, the 175 that talented
non-genius Bob Mould claims in his memoir, though 120-125 would
probably be a good idea just to utilize and kick-start the musical
genius properly. Third, most of the musical geniuses I can think of
are Black: on your list James Brown above all with Prince second,
maybe Wonder, not DeBarge or Ocean, but how come you left out Ray
Charles and Aretha Franklin? (And Louis Armstrong! Duke Ellington even
though he's never been a favorite of mine! Thelonious Monk! Miles
Davis!) The one obvious white genius who comes to mind is easy and
isn't on your list: Bob Dylan. Ditto for Joni Mitchell whatever her
vanities, Lennon probably, Eminem in his fucked up way conceivably,
and I definitely wouldn't rule out Swift. The others less, with
understandable candidate Beefheart exemplifying near-genius's
limitations. Billie Eilish PLUS HER BROTHER, THAT'S DEFINITELY A
PARTNERSHIP, might qualify in 10 years and might not. When I wrote my
Billboard obit of George Jones I pulled out the G-word, which didn't
seem preposterous, especially for someone on a death deadline. As for
Randy Newman and the Clash, both come close enough to justify a good
joke, Newman in particular given his soundtrack sideline. And now I
declare an end to this party game.
[Q] Did the Beatles ever make an A plus album? -- Faizal Ali, Minneapolis [A]
Ordinarily I skip A plus questions but this one I couldn't resist. How
could I not nominate the two
I put on my Rolling Stone
list: Sgt. Pepper and The Beatles' Second Album, the
latter of which most Beatles scholars don't believe counts if they
even acknowledge it exists? But because so much of my early Beatles
listening was their U.S. albums, I'm not qualified to distinguish
among the "official" UK versions that preceded
Sgt. Pepper. Moreover, while I feel and understand the artistic
skill and historical momentousness of prime candidate Rubber
Soul, in fact I only cream for three of its songs: "Norwegian
Wood," "Girl," and "In My Life." A plusses have to do more than that
for me.
[Q] hello mr. christgau, i am a big fan of your writing and music ratings. i often agree with your reviews, except for a few rap records that i disagree with haha. anyway, i would like to know what "happy/upbeat" records are some of your favorites? i am talking records in the likes of: rilo kiley's under the blacklight; van morrison's moondance; donald fagen's the nightfly and robyn's body talk. these are some of my favorite records to listen to and i would like to know more albums like them that i should listen to. -- gavin highly, minneapolis [A]
These things are so personal. I mean, I love The Nightfly and
Carola adores it. But Donald Fagen "happy/upbeat"? That pathological
ironist? How??? Still, I thought it might be fun to find something
suitable. Two records I go to for that sort of thing are
Franco & Rochereau's Omona
Wapi and
Manu Chao's Proxima Estacion
Esperanza, but both may be too world-musicky for your
tastes. Either '70s New York Dolls album?
KaitO's Band Red, a
recent if admittedly esoteric rediscovery around here?
The New Pornographers' Whiteout
Conditions?
Toots and the Maytals' Funky
Kingston, which another reader just excoriated me so
passionately for giving it an A minus rather than a full A that I
replayed it and found it was still an A minus for me. Hey wait, I've
got just the thing: The Beatles' Second
Album. Guaran-fucking-teed.
[Q] I have been an avid reader of robertchristgau.com since I was in high school (now about 10 years ago). During that critical time in my life, my taste has evolved a great deal, and your writing has proved a major influence on that evolution, helping me become attuned to and fall in love with (broadly speaking) African music, rock-n-roll, and classic soul. Having fallen in love with those (meta)genres, however, I can't help but feel a bit melancholy at the increasing marginality of rock-n-roll and classic soul songforms and archetypes in the popular consciousness (music from the African continent being marginal in the US by definition). Is it possible we might have a revival of interest in these ways of doing music? Do you think the great music of the '50s and '60s can translate to a new audience raised on the internet? Will bands ever be a "thing" again? Am I being overly pessimistic? PS: Special thanks for introducing me to Youssou N'Dour & Étoile de Dakar with your A+. -- Grace Brown, Montreal [A]
What can I say? Popular music evolves just like any art form--Louis
Armstrong and His Hot Seven were revolutionary in the late '20s and
still sound amazing today, but while it's possible to imagine some
historically inclined imitator reviving that sound to an extent,
that's a long shot technically and an impossibility culturally--just
wouldn't strike the kind of same spark, in the audience or among the
musicians themselves (plus, of course, no Satchmo). It's
distressed me for many years that the
rock and roll of the '50s is an unmapped antiquity for most young
listeners--to me the great Chuck Berry and Coasters and Buddy
Holly records plus many doowop one-shots (let's hear it for, hmm, how
about Johnnie and Joe's "Over the Mountain, Across the Sea") are
thrilling on the face of it, but to listeners your age (assuming for
the moment that your autobiographical profile is factual) that music
has been aesthetically inaccessible for decades. Almost the same goes
for soul stylings, although a few aging holdouts as well as some young
multiformalists like (Brown University graduate)
Jamila Woods continue
to work in that general area. But with bands it's different. There are
still plenty of bands, some even g-g-b-d or g-k-b-d, exploring that
option, and still venues for them too.
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